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RARE AS HECK! bLOKE MESSES WITH HIS F TUBA...in the SHOP !!!

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:05 pm
by bloke
For decades, the main tuning slide on this instrument wasn't quite aligned properly. There's a (secret, actually) reason for it, and it wasn't the factory's fault.

I knew that tackling/achieving perfect alignment would be a booger, but tonight I thought, "What the hell"?

(Ketosis sort of gives the person in it a slight sensation of a "high"...the [false] feeling that they can achieve great things, and should take them on.
OK...I fooled myself into taking this gig on, tonight.)

It's now properly aligned, and I even cut and refashioned the large-side brace from it to the bottom bow (to the new defined geometry).

There surely was a sh!tload of stuff to move (think of the Apollo 13 movie - where they manually pointed that contraption they were in towards the Earth) in order to achieve this. Oh well, it only took a couple of hours, and - after all - it's mine and - further - it is THE BEST F tuba on the planet (no sarcasm/no exaggeration), so - yes? - it deserved a properly-aligned main slide.

I actually had to saw off about (??) 3/32" of tubing from the end of the large/dogleg side, because - when B&S handmade these instruments, the inside slide tubes were fit to the quick, and changing the geometry (for alignment) ended up "pulling" the dogleg further towards the bottom of the tuba. (Thus, the large side hit well before the small side.)

...way-WAY too many nit-picky details to discuss, and these pics don't mean anything.

Oh yeah...for those of you familiar with these instruments, and are noticing that the main slide is out a bit far, here's why:
(We're utility bill cheapskates.)

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All of these (per usual with bloke) are nothing but "boring "after" pics:


This arrow shows that this outside slide tube was previously too close to the other one (at this end) by c. 8 or 9 thousandths of an inch.
I moved it the OPPOSITE direction indicated by the red arrow.
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These were/are REMARKABLE handmade instruments, and - unlike the cheapo ones they've made since - the dogleg and the top bow (all the way around to the bottow bow) was ONE LONG PIECE...nearly four feet long.
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Re: RARE AS HECK! bLOKE MESSES WITH HIS F TUBA...in the SHOP !!!

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:26 pm
by bloke
What prompted this?
I was just emailed the music for a church gig - a whole bunch o' tunes - two Sundays from now (Sat. reh.)

There's some fairly high stuff (2nd bone parts) and no terribly low stuff (nothing lower than "low F")...

...so I blew through all of the charts with the F tuba (and yup, decided to use it for the whole gig).

Once again (having not pulled this instrument out in quite a while) I was reminded of the main slide issue and - once again - felt guilty and ashamed for never having addressed it, so...

more blather...??

ok.

I've played this before, (Vaughan Williams). It's probably the nicest thing we (forming a quintet) will play.
It's "nice", but not really "good", as it sort of wanders around with pretty little things, and eventually ends - apologetically.


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bloke "I can ALWAYS post more crap..."

Re: RARE AS HECK! bLOKE MESSES WITH HIS F TUBA...in the SHOP !!!

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:19 am
by BramJ
Oh no, you ruined it now, the nodes have changed :bugeyes:

:smilie2:

Re: RARE AS HECK! bLOKE MESSES WITH HIS F TUBA...in the SHOP !!!

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:33 am
by MiBrassFS
Woody English… he’s a local. Good player, good guy. Retired trumpet soloist for the U.S. Army Band, “Pershing’s Own.” Arranging skills? Unknown to me!

Re: RARE AS HECK! bLOKE MESSES WITH HIS F TUBA...in the SHOP !!!

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 10:11 am
by bloke
MiBrassFS wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:33 am Woody English… he’s a local. Good player, good guy. Retired trumpet soloist for the U.S. Army Band, “Pershing’s Own.” Arranging skills? Unknown to me!
The arrangement is fine. As a matter of fact it's great. It's the composition itself that isn't that great. It's just a thing that meanders around in typically English tonalities and then surrenders at the end.

Re: RARE AS HECK! bLOKE MESSES WITH HIS F TUBA...in the SHOP !!!

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:38 am
by MiBrassFS
To completely derail this thread and because I was unfamiliar with this piece/arrangement (and wanted to hear for myself), here’s a random church performance of this piece/arrangement from YouTube meandering and surrendering as described above… enjoy?


Re: RARE AS HECK! bLOKE MESSES WITH HIS F TUBA...in the SHOP !!!

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:31 pm
by bloke
I'm not familiar with that tuning system.

Re: RARE AS HECK! bLOKE MESSES WITH HIS F TUBA...in the SHOP !!!

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:38 pm
by MiBrassFS
bloke wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:31 pmI'm not familiar with that tuning system.
Rails did get a little wide there…