Smaller than a Rose Solo?

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Smaller than a Rose Solo?

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Looking for a mouthpiece a bit smaller/shallower than the Miraphone Rose Solo. Width and rim are fine, just depth. (Maybe a slosh narrower.) Non-Miraphone is okay. JK are great. (I like their rims.)


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I’ve always used large pieces, so educate me on what is available in small pieces.
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Re: Smaller than a Rose Solo?

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Isn't a C4 (TU23) what you want then?

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Feature	                   Miraphone Rose Solo (TU27)	Miraphone C4 (TU23)
Cup Inner Diameter	   33.0 mm (1.299 inches)	        32.5 mm (1.280 inches)
Cup Depth	           37.9 mm (1.492 inches)	        36.9 mm (1.453 inches)
Throat (Bore) Size	   8.2 mm (0.323 inches)	        7.5 mm (0.295 inches)
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Re: Smaller than a Rose Solo?

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Wretched rim… and the current iteration is not the same as my classic C4.

I suppose I should have excluded the C4 from my list…

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How about a C4/TU23 clone with a better rim and the same throat? The C4 rim is… odd…

Is there a Doug Elliott equivalent for this? (Esp. Old system DE)?
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Re: Smaller than a Rose Solo?

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Well, let's have a look in the old mouthpiece bucket ... Ah ha! here's a current production mouthpiece that might not be familiar, a Mike Finn MF5.
Mike Finn wrote: Featuring the same rim contour and diameter as the MF3 (and 3B) but a shallower cup, the MF5 is a big mouthpiece that isn’t too big.
An excellent choice for all around playing, and an especially good match for the larger contrabass tubas so popular today.
Indeed it is a fairly wide cup diameter, but for me he's right, as its shallower depth makes for a medium cup volume. I haven't used it a lot, but I think the reason is because I don't play loud enough when I'm practicing. Sweet played loud. A lot of my mouthpieces, I doubt anyone could tell the difference, but I bet they could pick this smoothie out. Very rounded rim.

[edit]After putting in a little more time playing it harder ... I don't know. Not sure if it's smooth, or muffled. His MF2B is more apparently like the King 26.[/edit]
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The @bloke solo no 0 is what I use. It has a Miraphone C4 cup, a tighter throat, and can come with a rim of your choosing
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Re: Smaller than a Rose Solo?

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Have one. Looking for SMALLER… :cheers:
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Schilke 62?
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Re: Smaller than a Rose Solo?

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Shallower (a good bit more than a smidge, but the same type of cup) is the silver plated brass cimbasso mouthpiece that I developed. You might want to drill the throat out if you like other things about it... or you might choose to leave it. (It's what you heard the first low B in the James Bond medley played through.) The bore of that instrument is .689"

It's one-piece silver plated brass, so the obvious disadvantages are that "it is what it is". You might not like the fact that it's only a 32.3mm embouchure diameter, and - again - you might not like the throat.

(#2 rim profile)

I have one left unsold with a standard shank receiver. Mississippi customers - ONLY those with weird senses of humor - are allowed trials without paying in advance, if they choose to take advantage of that option. The boss says that if it doesn't seem to do the trick, they would like to see it back within 2 weeks.

$150, if kept, pls.

As you know, postage is either $6 or $11.
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