Vintage 186 BBb

For posting interesting and remarkable deals found on the internet.
Post Reply
hrender
Posts: 1910
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:18 am
Has thanked: 612 times
Been thanked: 298 times

Vintage 186 BBb

Post by hrender »

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mirafone-Model ... 4598159027

Interesting horn. Local pick up only.


User avatar
matt g
Posts: 2580
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:37 am
Location: Southeastern New England
Has thanked: 263 times
Been thanked: 555 times

Re: Vintage 186 BBb

Post by matt g »

hrender wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:24 pm https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mirafone-Model ... 4598159027

Interesting horn. Local pick up only.
There’s a good chance that that horn hasn’t traveled very far from the original point of sale.
Dillon/Walters CC (sold)
Meinl-Weston 2165 (sold)
User avatar
bloke
Mid South Music
Posts: 19326
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:55 am
Location: western Tennessee - near Memphis
Has thanked: 3852 times
Been thanked: 4102 times

Re: Vintage 186 BBb

Post by bloke »

I see hints of possible (??) distant-past re-lacquering.

Additionally, if a finish has been that well-preserved for 60 years (along with avoidance of denting), it's likely that the original case would not have had to have been replaced, at some point...

bloke "...and sometimes, I'm wrong."
KingTuba1241X
Posts: 1045
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:41 am
Has thanked: 41 times
Been thanked: 80 times

Re: Vintage 186 BBb

Post by KingTuba1241X »

matt g wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:30 am
hrender wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:24 pm https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mirafone-Model ... 4598159027

Interesting horn. Local pick up only.
There’s a good chance that that horn hasn’t traveled very far from the original point of sale.
The previous owner's name is Matt Varho in Southern Cal. You can ask him, though doubtful he was the original owner. And I am wondering if that 'store' is consigning the horn for him.
06' Miraphone 187-4U
User avatar
matt g
Posts: 2580
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:37 am
Location: Southeastern New England
Has thanked: 263 times
Been thanked: 555 times

Re: Vintage 186 BBb

Post by matt g »

KingTuba1241X wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:51 pm
matt g wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:30 am
hrender wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:24 pm https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mirafone-Model ... 4598159027

Interesting horn. Local pick up only.
There’s a good chance that that horn hasn’t traveled very far from the original point of sale.
The previous owner's name is Matt Varho in Southern Cal. You can ask him, though doubtful he was the original owner. And I am wondering if that 'store' is consigning the horn for him.
I was only remarking on the notion that when that horn was imported, the importer was in LA, iirc.
Dillon/Walters CC (sold)
Meinl-Weston 2165 (sold)
KingTuba1241X
Posts: 1045
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:41 am
Has thanked: 41 times
Been thanked: 80 times

Re: Vintage 186 BBb

Post by KingTuba1241X »

matt g wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:54 pm
KingTuba1241X wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:51 pm
matt g wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:30 am

There’s a good chance that that horn hasn’t traveled very far from the original point of sale.
The previous owner's name is Matt Varho in Southern Cal. You can ask him, though doubtful he was the original owner. And I am wondering if that 'store' is consigning the horn for him.
I was only remarking on the notion that when that horn was imported, the importer was in LA, iirc.
I dunno, was the Sun Valley, Ca distributor active in 1958-59'?
06' Miraphone 187-4U
User avatar
matt g
Posts: 2580
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:37 am
Location: Southeastern New England
Has thanked: 263 times
Been thanked: 555 times

Re: Vintage 186 BBb

Post by matt g »

matt g wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:54 pm
KingTuba1241X wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:51 pm
matt g wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:30 am

There’s a good chance that that horn hasn’t traveled very far from the original point of sale.
The previous owner's name is Matt Varho in Southern Cal. You can ask him, though doubtful he was the original owner. And I am wondering if that 'store' is consigning the horn for him.
I was only remarking on the notion that when that horn was imported, the importer was in LA, iirc.
They were there in the 1960s. Possibly? This could be new old stock also that was shipped to the USA for distribution. It’s all speculation.
Dillon/Walters CC (sold)
Meinl-Weston 2165 (sold)
KingTuba1241X
Posts: 1045
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:41 am
Has thanked: 41 times
Been thanked: 80 times

Re: Vintage 186 BBb

Post by KingTuba1241X »

Maybe mid to late 60's, doubt they would sell a 7-8 year old horn as "new" then. It has a bow "fin" as well which is (sometimes or not mostly indicative of) being for distribution in Europe but also is spelled MiraFone.
06' Miraphone 187-4U
User avatar
matt g
Posts: 2580
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:37 am
Location: Southeastern New England
Has thanked: 263 times
Been thanked: 555 times

Re: Vintage 186 BBb

Post by matt g »

Both of my Mirafones were “f” and not “ph” horns. Both were from the 1980s. I’m not sure that’s a deciding factor?
Dillon/Walters CC (sold)
Meinl-Weston 2165 (sold)
KingTuba1241X
Posts: 1045
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:41 am
Has thanked: 41 times
Been thanked: 80 times

Re: Vintage 186 BBb

Post by KingTuba1241X »

matt g wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:24 pm Both of my Mirafones were “f” and not “ph” horns. Both were from the 1980s. I’m not sure that’s a deciding factor?
I think PHones were later imports in the late 80's or 90's?
06' Miraphone 187-4U
Post Reply