New blood, Part 1 (Besson 983)

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New blood, Part 1 (Besson 983)

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Any mouthpiece recommendations? I plugged an old something or another in there today, and it worked just fine. Only had 20 minutes on it today, but it was 20 badass minutes. SO easy to play!

New blood, Part 2 is in Iowa right now. I'll post about that in a few weeks when I get it back.
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Re: New blood, Part 1

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Wow!

I never expected this, how does it play?
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Don't worry, Part 2 will meet expectations.

I only had 20 minutes, but it was outrageous. Maybe a minute of fumbling around to figure out how blow the air for it, then it was all go. Not much it can't do, and I know I'm to blame for all that. Easy to hold, easy to play, great valves. Made in England.
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Nice!!! I've always wanted one of those. Probably a good choice for an all-around axe. And less heavy to boot.
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English C tuba? if so, it's gotta be an outcast over there.
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KingTuba1241X wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:19 pm English C tuba? if so, it's gotta be an outcast over there.
Its a Besson 983 Eb
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Re: New blood, Part 1

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Wow! I did not see that coming...

Your little three-valve Eb really sold you huh? I've always wanted to try a compensating Eb. I love my little five-valve Franken Eb. Enjoy!
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It is the intersection of opportunity and curiosity. Going in, I didn't expect to keep it very long. Time will tell. It's wonderful. I just need to see if it's also useful.

PS, this was like my first real 20 minutes on an Eb tuba. Loved it!

PPS, I need a gig bag! This hard case is enormo!
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Re: New blood, Part 1 (Besson 983)

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bort2.0 wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 6:17 pm Any mouthpiece recommendations?
Parker Bel Canto (designed for this horn), Dillon S3 or S2 (also designed for this horn). Note the Parker shank is VERY short relative to its peers. I believe Chronkhite has a Chocolate Brown Leather bag in stock for this horn. There's a Miraphone bag that fits just about perfectly.
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kingrob76 wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:35 am
bort2.0 wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 6:17 pm Any mouthpiece recommendations?
Parker Bel Canto (designed for this horn), Dillon S3 or S2 (also designed for this horn). Note the Parker shank is VERY short relative to its peers. I believe Chronkhite has a Chocolate Brown Leather bag in stock for this horn. There's a Miraphone bag that fits just about perfectly.
Which model for the Miraphone bag?

The receiver is already all up on the bell, so a super short shank seems less desirable. I haven't tried my Thein RCC on it yet, but sure that's too big. Kinda wonder if there's a Thein bass tuba mouthpiece that would work well for me on this. Because the RCC is here to stay, and I wouldn't mind a lil sister to it for the bass tuba.
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It fits in the trunk?
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Nice.

What shank does it take? And bell size?...

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bort2.0 wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:56 am
kingrob76 wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:35 am
bort2.0 wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 6:17 pm Any mouthpiece recommendations?
Parker Bel Canto (designed for this horn), Dillon S3 or S2 (also designed for this horn). Note the Parker shank is VERY short relative to its peers. I believe Chronkhite has a Chocolate Brown Leather bag in stock for this horn. There's a Miraphone bag that fits just about perfectly.
Which model for the Miraphone bag?

The receiver is already all up on the bell, so a super short shank seems less desirable. I haven't tried my Thein RCC on it yet, but sure that's too big. Kinda wonder if there's a Thein bass tuba mouthpiece that would work well for me on this. Because the RCC is here to stay, and I wouldn't mind a lil sister to it for the bass tuba.

G170103

I'm selling one, BTW. At least that's the one I ordered for my 983 back in May 2020. It's really close on size and fit the 2141 perfectly (very similar dimensions.

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Sent you a PM, Rob
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Amado water keys?
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GC wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:13 pmAmado water keys?
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No thumb ring either... Was it removed, or do none of these have thumb rings?
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Is there a serial # list somewhere to look up the year of manufacture? My s/n starts "878...."Just curious!
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bort2.0 wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:59 pm Is there a serial # list somewhere to look up the year of manufacture? My s/n starts "878...."Just curious!
My goto is for first pass at stuff is horn-u-copia.net (thanks if there are folk here who help make that happen)

Might this help?

https://www.horn-u-copia.net/serial/Bessonlist.html
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humBell wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:18 pm
bort2.0 wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:59 pm Is there a serial # list somewhere to look up the year of manufacture? My s/n starts "878...."Just curious!
My goto is for first pass at stuff is horn-u-copia.net (thanks if there are folk here who help make that happen)

Might this help?

https://www.horn-u-copia.net/serial/Bessonlist.html
Er... which refers ya to the Boosey & Hawkes list...

2000?

I think the number by the year is the first made that year, being the convention?

Fortunately it is less confusing than the ol' Boosey & Co. which typically have different numbers on bell and valve set.
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