Hailstork - American Port of Call
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Hailstork - American Port of Call
' finishing out the Memphis Symphony "masterworks" 21-22 series playing Rhapsody in Blue and this Hailstock.
The Hailstork sounds "brassy"...I've not played it, and it certainly isn't on ISMLP.
I'll have the pdf tonight or tomorrow, so I'm not here asking for that.
I'm looking forward to playing something - something interesting - that previously I have not (vs. yet another Brahms 2, Dvorak 8/9, etc.)
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My same old stupid toothache (probably, a bad place in my sinus, because the tooth is root-canaled) is acting up, but peroxide (and avoiding spicy stuff) seems to knock it back. I suppose I'm going to have to see someone about it - other than a dentist. ' no lectures needed; I'm going to look into this...
conciliation to the gum-ache thing:
I believe I can legitimately use this new-to-me behemoth on both the Gershwin and Hailstork.
The Hailstork sounds "brassy"...I've not played it, and it certainly isn't on ISMLP.
I'll have the pdf tonight or tomorrow, so I'm not here asking for that.
I'm looking forward to playing something - something interesting - that previously I have not (vs. yet another Brahms 2, Dvorak 8/9, etc.)
sidebar:
My same old stupid toothache (probably, a bad place in my sinus, because the tooth is root-canaled) is acting up, but peroxide (and avoiding spicy stuff) seems to knock it back. I suppose I'm going to have to see someone about it - other than a dentist. ' no lectures needed; I'm going to look into this...
conciliation to the gum-ache thing:
I believe I can legitimately use this new-to-me behemoth on both the Gershwin and Hailstork.
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Re: Hailstork - American Port of Call
oh well...
rec'd pdf of (rental only) part from orch' librarian...
' just another "tuba as a percussion instrument" part.
oh yeah...a couple of "wildly-high shrieks" tossed in for good measure.
Here are the two gorgeous tuba solo passages...I spent nearly 40 seconds - each - mastering these two excerpts:
(Previously penciled in - for the second one - is "to F tuba". )
For the record: BOTH of these heart-wrenching, emotional, and sublime solo excerpts were behemoth-rendered.
For your perfect-pitch-pretenders, the pitch is going to be HIGH...It's probably 88 degrees in here...I'm NOT turning on the air, because I'm going right back out to work on a p.o.s. YBB-321.
rec'd pdf of (rental only) part from orch' librarian...
' just another "tuba as a percussion instrument" part.
oh yeah...a couple of "wildly-high shrieks" tossed in for good measure.
Here are the two gorgeous tuba solo passages...I spent nearly 40 seconds - each - mastering these two excerpts:
(Previously penciled in - for the second one - is "to F tuba". )
For the record: BOTH of these heart-wrenching, emotional, and sublime solo excerpts were behemoth-rendered.
For your perfect-pitch-pretenders, the pitch is going to be HIGH...It's probably 88 degrees in here...I'm NOT turning on the air, because I'm going right back out to work on a p.o.s. YBB-321.
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Re: Hailstork - American Port of Call
If the music weren't rental, I'd do shots of those "beautiful solos" on the sheet music.
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Re: Hailstork - American Port of Call
Wow. What a wonderful composition.
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Re: Hailstork - American Port of Call
I was actually encouraged when I listened to the recording (some interesting sounds, etc.)...but then - when I looked at what (read: "all") that the tuba is doing (ie. again: just another "tuba as pitched percussion" part), it was quite a letdown.
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Re: Hailstork - American Port of Call
I'm tempted but I don't think I'll be able to make it to the concert this time.
Some old Yorks, Martins, and perhaps a King rotary valved CC
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Re: Hailstork - American Port of Call
Actually, the other tunes are pretty good:
- Rhapsody in Blue
- Prokofiev Piano 3
- Sorcerer’s Apprentice
Also, if you listen to the recording of the Hailstork, the piece itself is pretty interesting it’s just not interesting for the tuba-as-percussionist player.
There’s just no opportunity here for me to play something I’ve never played before that’s also interesting.
- Rhapsody in Blue
- Prokofiev Piano 3
- Sorcerer’s Apprentice
Also, if you listen to the recording of the Hailstork, the piece itself is pretty interesting it’s just not interesting for the tuba-as-percussionist player.
There’s just no opportunity here for me to play something I’ve never played before that’s also interesting.
York-aholic wrote: ↑Mon May 09, 2022 11:32 pm I'm tempted but I don't think I'll be able to make it to the concert this time.
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Re: Hailstork - American Port of Call
Is that all there is to a tuba part?
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Re: Hailstork - American Port of Call
That does sound like a fun set list, except for that Prok on tuba. I played it on bass trombone years ago, tons of fun playing that descending line with the basses. That is a different sound for sure.bloke wrote: ↑Tue May 10, 2022 6:37 am Actually, the other tunes are pretty good:
- Rhapsody in Blue
- Prokofiev Piano 3
- Sorcerer’s Apprentice
Also, if you listen to the recording of the Hailstork, the piece itself is pretty interesting it’s just not interesting for the tuba-as-percussionist player.
There’s just no opportunity here for me to play something I’ve never played before that’s also interesting.
York-aholic wrote: ↑Mon May 09, 2022 11:32 pm I'm tempted but I don't think I'll be able to make it to the concert this time.
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Re: Hailstork - American Port of Call
No tuba on Prokofiev or Dukas.
Here’s what’s cool:
My stuff is all on one side of the intermission.
Here’s what’s cool:
My stuff is all on one side of the intermission.
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Re: Hailstork - American Port of Call
What tuba are you playing that on?
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Re: Hailstork - American Port of Call
That's a Miraphone Siegfried 98.
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Maybe... possibly... there will be a recording made of Ziggy's big public outing?
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Re: Hailstork - American Port of Call
- run through this one more time with YouTube…?
- watch Addams family…?
- run through this one more time with YouTube…?
- Watch the Addams family…?
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bloke “…the life of a struggling tubiste”
- watch Addams family…?
- run through this one more time with YouTube…?
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bloke “…the life of a struggling tubiste”
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Re: Hailstork - American Port of Call
This piece easily fit together in the reading rehearsal. (i’m having trouble figuring out which tense of “fit” to use in that sentence.)
re: pair of rugged higher-pitched “sound-effects”-sounding figures: Someone in the past marked in pencil “to F tuba”.
I didn’t want to drag my F tuba down there just to secure that pair of sound effects, but I did decide to bring the euphonium - as they are both in unison with the horns - in their mid-upper range. My bass trombone buddy teased me a little bit, and I pointed out to him that trumpet players do that all the time - and horn players shorten their instruments without anyone being able to see them do it, to which he responded, “You’re right”.
The euphonium tosses those effects out with more clarity and volume, and - of course - there’s infinitely less chance of splatting one of them.
There are five staccato lower pitches marked muted. I don’t have any mutes that are corked large enough to fit the Siegfried, and I’m just playing them very snarly and short. The only thing missing is the metallic sound - which would cloak their sounding pitches. That having been said, I might do the contact-cement-and-Velcro thing, and make this mute into a multi-fit - just like my other one. Someone could point and make fun of me dragging a mute and a euphonium to a gig, but I could just as easily point and make fun of them with their complicated music stand, stand lights, big-ass piece of plexiglass, and bag of endless emergency-repairs gadgetry, so call all of that finger-pointing “a draw“. (I’m parking immediately outside the stage store, under cover.)
They are also playing “Sorcerer’s Apprentice“.
Unlike the typical one-rehearsal run-through of that piece (for children’s concerts), they are really getting into the details of it, and I’m tickled to hear that is going to be performed so well.
There is only one rehearsal scheduled of “Rhapsody in Blue” - the one with the soloist, who is also playing Prokofiev 3rd. It seems odd to only rehearse the “title piece” of a concert once, but everyone in the ensemble has played it so many times, so…
re: pair of rugged higher-pitched “sound-effects”-sounding figures: Someone in the past marked in pencil “to F tuba”.
I didn’t want to drag my F tuba down there just to secure that pair of sound effects, but I did decide to bring the euphonium - as they are both in unison with the horns - in their mid-upper range. My bass trombone buddy teased me a little bit, and I pointed out to him that trumpet players do that all the time - and horn players shorten their instruments without anyone being able to see them do it, to which he responded, “You’re right”.
The euphonium tosses those effects out with more clarity and volume, and - of course - there’s infinitely less chance of splatting one of them.
There are five staccato lower pitches marked muted. I don’t have any mutes that are corked large enough to fit the Siegfried, and I’m just playing them very snarly and short. The only thing missing is the metallic sound - which would cloak their sounding pitches. That having been said, I might do the contact-cement-and-Velcro thing, and make this mute into a multi-fit - just like my other one. Someone could point and make fun of me dragging a mute and a euphonium to a gig, but I could just as easily point and make fun of them with their complicated music stand, stand lights, big-ass piece of plexiglass, and bag of endless emergency-repairs gadgetry, so call all of that finger-pointing “a draw“. (I’m parking immediately outside the stage store, under cover.)
They are also playing “Sorcerer’s Apprentice“.
Unlike the typical one-rehearsal run-through of that piece (for children’s concerts), they are really getting into the details of it, and I’m tickled to hear that is going to be performed so well.
There is only one rehearsal scheduled of “Rhapsody in Blue” - the one with the soloist, who is also playing Prokofiev 3rd. It seems odd to only rehearse the “title piece” of a concert once, but everyone in the ensemble has played it so many times, so…