attn: music theory stuff-knowers

[bloke]

How close - other than the doo-wop chord progression - are these vocals to fauxbourdon ?

[DonO.]

Not that close really. There is a higher melody (“cantus firmus”) with lower harmony parts, but those parts don’t stick exclusively to the major sixth-perfect fourth structure of fauxbourdon. Additionally the harmony parts sound decidedly modern, with major 7th chords and such that would NEVER have been used in fauxbourdon. So I would say, reminiscent of the structure, maybe.

[bloke]

In English so-called "classical" music, I hear reminiscent sounds of fauxbourdon - I believe certainly with Vaughan Williams, and of course none of it is strict - as it conforms to tonality, but do you hear a reference?

[DonO.]

Yes, there are obviously some commonalities, but whether the Beatles were trying to purposefully reference a 500 year old musical style is, to me, doubtful. I would be surprised to learn that those young lads who spent so much time and energy studying and learning to imitate American blues, rockabilly, rock, etc. would even be aware of such a thing. Perhaps the resemblance is purely a coincidence?

[bloke]

In particular, Paul was "into" things.
He wasn't a "classical music aficionado", but he was exposed to it and spent time listening to it.

In a video, a "Gary" guy discusses using this Bach lute Bourrée (one off the first pieces that all of us nylon string guitar peeps learned) as an inspiration for one of their songs.





I have watched an Instagram reel (on facebook) where Paul himself discussed this inspiration, but - well - I'm not an Instagram person, so I have no idea how I would find that one.

As to the Beatles continued ramping up of musical sophistication, everyone seems to like to murmur "George Martin...George Martin...George Martin"...
...whereas I murmur "Paul McCartney...Paul McCartney...Paul McCartney..."

[Three Valves]

Faux Bourbon?

I don’t like the sound of that….

[Three Valves]

Today we saw “One hand clapping” featuring Sir Paul and Wings (Early)

Nice archival footage.

The sound was more restored than the video.

PM&W were a large part of the sound track of my Middle School years.

It’s easy to have forgotten some of his minor hits and nice to hear new old stuff as well.

IPIC movie house was not cheap but the seats and food were pretty nice…



@bloke

[martyneilan]

In particular, Paul was "into" things.
He wasn't a "classical music aficionado", but he was exposed to it and spent time listening to it.

In a video, a "Gary" guy discusses using this Bach lute Bourrée (one off the first pieces that all of us nylon string guitar peeps learned) as an inspiration for one of their songs.





I have watched an Instagram reel (on facebook) where Paul himself discussed this inspiration, but - well - I'm not an Instagram person, so I have no idea how I would find that one.

As to the Beatles continued ramping up of musical sophistication, everyone seems to like to murmur "George Martin...George Martin...George Martin"...
...whereas I murmur "Paul McCartney...Paul McCartney...Paul McCartney..."

Which Paul?

[bloke]

the one who died and was replaced with the guy who looks just like him, of course.

bloke "who lived through that nonsense"