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Re: hammered finish
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 7:18 pm
by York-aholic
Hammered finish, now available in a convenient rattle can for silver plated instruments.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rust-Oleum ... lsrc=aw.ds
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Re: hammered finish
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:27 am
by bloke
I have used that stuff, and it does work. Actually it’s pretty convincing in its appearance, and would be much easier on a musical instrument than an actual hammered finish.
You’ve got me thinking about buying some of the bronzy-colored cans, and shooting it on my compact Holton.
I guess I should run a poll with the freak jury to discover whether doing that would raise, lower, or do nothing to its resale value.
I suppose the only other question would be how much effect it would have on how the instrument projects - when played in the Wiener Musikverein.
Re: hammered finish
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:37 am
by hrender
It seems like imparting the hammered finish would induce
work hardening of the metal, which may be good, but I don't know enough about the process to really be sure.
Re: hammered finish
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:48 am
by bloke
hrender wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:37 am
It seems like imparting the hammered finish would induce
work hardening of the metal, which may be good, but I don't know enough about the process to really be sure.
Since that is an unknown, we needn’t come to blows, over this.
Re: hammered finish
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:01 am
by greenbean
York-aholic wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 7:18 pm
Hammered finish, now available in a convenient rattle can for silver plated instruments.
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028DB292-FE2E-4E10-ADEB-7D341E83E241.jpeg
Hammered paint finishes look great! They have been used on industrial equipment for decades - in combination with super-durable paints. My industrial sewing machines have it. And I think it would look great on fiberglass sousaphones!
Re: hammered finish
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:12 am
by bloke
...and I was joking about spraying it on a tuba, but now I'm not so sure that it's a joke.
- faux brass hammered-finish paint on exterior (perhaps with buffed/high-gloss bow ferrule lacquered-brass accents, as well as a buffed/high-gloss clear lacquered brass bell interior), and buffed/high-gloss clear lacquered brass slides (as well as - possibly - the engraved area on the bell). I'd probably also go ahead and do buffed/high-gloss clear lacquered brass on the bottom bow cap - as any (let's be real: LIKELY) scuffing would look more normal/natural.
bloke "Rattle-can paints have come a VERY long way...I am able to use them OUTDOORS in very sunny applications, and - even in those sorts of applications - they last for SEVERAL YEARS."
Re: hammered finish
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 12:26 pm
by York-aholic
greenbean wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:01 am
York-aholic wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 7:18 pm
Hammered finish, now available in a convenient rattle can for silver plated instruments.
...
028DB292-FE2E-4E10-ADEB-7D341E83E241.jpeg
Hammered paint finishes look great! They have been used on industrial equipment for decades - in combination with super-durable paints. My industrial sewing machines have it. And I think it would look great on fiberglass sousaphones!
Agreed. I made a wooden base for my bandsaw (I found it used without one) after restoring the saw. Hammered finish paint worked very well on the stand and covers over minor imperfections nicely.
Re: hammered finish
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 12:29 pm
by bloke
re: the compact Holton...
Stay tuned.
Re: hammered finish
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:46 pm
by greenbean
Here is my main machine...
https://photos.app.goo.gl/kUGBvQetMAsPSyAs8
Now imagine this textured paint on a sousaphone... in gold...
Re: hammered finish
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:34 pm
by donn
I'd like to see a photo of someone's paint job with that Rust-Oleum stuff. The only one I could find when I looked yesterday, the result looked pretty much like any old spray paint, albeit maybe a little lumpy, which for me would probably help disguise painting flaws. I've seen plenty of textured finishes on old machines, and this was not that. But it was a video, so image quality was very low.
Re: hammered finish
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:20 pm
by bloke
I did a web search of sample appearances of how various makers of the faux-hammered-finish rattle-can jobs turn out.
All of them looked fake/synthesized/disingenuous, EXCEPT for this picture which was NOT on a paint-buying webpage.
THIS - in my experience - is how this stuff turns out.
Now...WERE I to use this stuff, which would be more interesting:
- brass faux hammered finish (against bright clear-lacquered brass highlights/offsets, OR...
- some other color of faux hammered finish - ex's: bronze, antique bronze, etc... (against bright clear-lacquered brass highlights/offsets)
eh...??
donn wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:34 pm
I'd like to see a photo of someone's paint job with that Rust-Oleum stuff. The only one I could find when I looked yesterday, the result looked pretty much like any old spray paint, albeit maybe a little lumpy, which for me would probably help disguise painting flaws. I've seen plenty of textured finishes on old machines, and this was not that. But it was a video, so image quality was very low.
Re: hammered finish
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:35 pm
by York-aholic
bloke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:20 pm
I did a web search of sample appearances of how various makers of the faux-hammered-finish rattle-can jobs turn out.
All of them looked fake/synthesized/disingenuous, EXCEPT for this picture which was NOT on a paint-buying webpage.
THIS - in my experience - is how this stuff turns out.
Now...WERE I to use this stuff, which would be more interesting:
- brass faux hammered finish (against bright clear-lacquered brass highlights/offsets, OR...
- some other color of faux hammered finish - ex's: bronze, antique bronze, etc... (against bright clear-lacquered brass highlights/offsets)
eh...??
donn wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:34 pm
I'd like to see a photo of someone's paint job with that Rust-Oleum stuff. The only one I could find when I looked yesterday, the result looked pretty much like any old spray paint, albeit maybe a little lumpy, which for me would probably help disguise painting flaws. I've seen plenty of textured finishes on old machines, and this was not that. But it was a video, so image quality was very low.
I vote for brass color.
Re: hammered finish
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:43 pm
by donn
Green.
Re: hammered finish
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:57 pm
by bloke
Army green might actually look really good.
Re: hammered finish
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:39 am
by donn
I was thinking more of a real green, but it's immaterial if you can't get the paint in that color. It looks to me like the Rust-Oleum hammered paint comes in shades of brown, and "forged hammered" adds gold and pewter. (Don't know what the difference really is - the latter may be more noticeably lumpy, but can't say for sure.)
Re: hammered finish
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:48 am
by hrender
Re: hammered finish
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:26 am
by bloke
Notice how all of the paint companies’ pictures of the finish are computer-synthesized pictures, and not actual pictures of how the finish looks.
Re: hammered finish
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:44 am
by York-aholic
bloke wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:26 am
Notice how all of the paint companies’ pictures of the finish are computer-synthesized pictures, and not actual pictures of how the finish looks.
Well of course. You can’t expect truth in advertising. Don’t go getting all silly on us now.
Re: hammered finish
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:28 am
by bloke
I get that, but the actual results look better than their computer generated versions.