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Vintage 186 BBb

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:24 pm
by hrender
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mirafone-Model ... 4598159027

Interesting horn. Local pick up only.

Re: Vintage 186 BBb

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:30 am
by matt g
hrender wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:24 pm https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mirafone-Model ... 4598159027

Interesting horn. Local pick up only.
There’s a good chance that that horn hasn’t traveled very far from the original point of sale.

Re: Vintage 186 BBb

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:54 am
by bloke
I see hints of possible (??) distant-past re-lacquering.

Additionally, if a finish has been that well-preserved for 60 years (along with avoidance of denting), it's likely that the original case would not have had to have been replaced, at some point...

bloke "...and sometimes, I'm wrong."

Re: Vintage 186 BBb

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:51 pm
by KingTuba1241X
matt g wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:30 am
hrender wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:24 pm https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mirafone-Model ... 4598159027

Interesting horn. Local pick up only.
There’s a good chance that that horn hasn’t traveled very far from the original point of sale.
The previous owner's name is Matt Varho in Southern Cal. You can ask him, though doubtful he was the original owner. And I am wondering if that 'store' is consigning the horn for him.

Re: Vintage 186 BBb

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:54 pm
by matt g
KingTuba1241X wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:51 pm
matt g wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:30 am
hrender wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:24 pm https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mirafone-Model ... 4598159027

Interesting horn. Local pick up only.
There’s a good chance that that horn hasn’t traveled very far from the original point of sale.
The previous owner's name is Matt Varho in Southern Cal. You can ask him, though doubtful he was the original owner. And I am wondering if that 'store' is consigning the horn for him.
I was only remarking on the notion that when that horn was imported, the importer was in LA, iirc.

Re: Vintage 186 BBb

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:01 pm
by KingTuba1241X
matt g wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:54 pm
KingTuba1241X wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:51 pm
matt g wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:30 am

There’s a good chance that that horn hasn’t traveled very far from the original point of sale.
The previous owner's name is Matt Varho in Southern Cal. You can ask him, though doubtful he was the original owner. And I am wondering if that 'store' is consigning the horn for him.
I was only remarking on the notion that when that horn was imported, the importer was in LA, iirc.
I dunno, was the Sun Valley, Ca distributor active in 1958-59'?

Re: Vintage 186 BBb

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:06 pm
by matt g
matt g wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:54 pm
KingTuba1241X wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:51 pm
matt g wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:30 am

There’s a good chance that that horn hasn’t traveled very far from the original point of sale.
The previous owner's name is Matt Varho in Southern Cal. You can ask him, though doubtful he was the original owner. And I am wondering if that 'store' is consigning the horn for him.
I was only remarking on the notion that when that horn was imported, the importer was in LA, iirc.
They were there in the 1960s. Possibly? This could be new old stock also that was shipped to the USA for distribution. It’s all speculation.

Re: Vintage 186 BBb

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:47 pm
by KingTuba1241X
Maybe mid to late 60's, doubt they would sell a 7-8 year old horn as "new" then. It has a bow "fin" as well which is (sometimes or not mostly indicative of) being for distribution in Europe but also is spelled MiraFone.

Re: Vintage 186 BBb

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:24 pm
by matt g
Both of my Mirafones were “f” and not “ph” horns. Both were from the 1980s. I’m not sure that’s a deciding factor?

Re: Vintage 186 BBb

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:37 pm
by KingTuba1241X
matt g wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:24 pm Both of my Mirafones were “f” and not “ph” horns. Both were from the 1980s. I’m not sure that’s a deciding factor?
I think PHones were later imports in the late 80's or 90's?