Holding a King 2341- left hand position?
Forum rules
This section is for posts that are directly related to performance, performers, or equipment. Social issues are allowed, as long as they are directly related to those categories. If you see a post that you cannot respond to with respect and courtesy, we ask that you do not respond at all.
This section is for posts that are directly related to performance, performers, or equipment. Social issues are allowed, as long as they are directly related to those categories. If you see a post that you cannot respond to with respect and courtesy, we ask that you do not respond at all.
-
- Posts: 674
- Joined: Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:12 am
- Location: Meadville, PA
- Has thanked: 252 times
- Been thanked: 259 times
Holding a King 2341- left hand position?
This is a question specifically for other players of the 2341, or similar clones/copies. I have tried different places for my left hand/arm. I know some people put their left arm on the upper bow so they are in a position to pull slides. The thing is, though, I don’t pull slides that often- I feel that my horn’s intonation is good enough that I only need to pull for certain notes considerably below low Bb, C above pedal Bb for example. I find that position very uncomfortable, and I don’t see the point of being always ready to pull a slide that only happens very occasionally. So then, there is placing your left hand on the side of the horn to help balance it. But where exactly? Outer tubing? Inner tubing? Center, higher, lower? I’ve tried different places but can’t seem to decide on just one. I would like to achieve a consistent playing position though. I would be grateful for any suggestions. Thank you.
King 2341 “new style”
Kanstul 902-3B
Conn Helleberg Standard 120
Kanstul 902-3B
Conn Helleberg Standard 120
- Rick Denney
- Resident Genius
- Posts: 1032
- Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:24 am
- Has thanked: 57 times
- Been thanked: 335 times
Re: Holding a King 2341- left hand position?
That’s one tuba where I don’t have a “standard” left hand position. It just goes where it goes—I’m not even really aware of it. It’s probably on the outer branch most often.
It also sits in my lap well without a stand, which I routinely use for my bigger tubas.
Rick “but it’s a PITA to empty water every 30 seconds” Denney
It also sits in my lap well without a stand, which I routinely use for my bigger tubas.
Rick “but it’s a PITA to empty water every 30 seconds” Denney
- These users thanked the author Rick Denney for the post:
- DonO. (Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:29 am)
- matt g
- Posts: 2583
- Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:37 am
- Location: Southeastern New England
- Has thanked: 263 times
- Been thanked: 555 times
Re: Holding a King 2341- left hand position?
Same.Rick Denney wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 7:57 pm That’s one tuba where I don’t have a “standard” left hand position. It just goes where it goes—I’m not even really aware of it. It’s probably on the outer branch most often.
I think this is kinda why. My Conn/King creation has similar ergonomics and is just “easy” to hold. Sometimes my hand is through the horn to touch the slides, sometimes it’s over the top bow.It also sits in my lap well without a stand, which I routinely use for my bigger tubas.
What I would recommend, @DonO., if you haven’t gotten some already, is some of the grippy shelf liner one can find at Walmart or similar. You can usually find it in black. I cut it into squares and plop a square on the inside anterior part of my left thigh and it basically makes the horn stay in place without much left hand work anyhow.
Dillon/Walters CC (sold)
Meinl-Weston 2165 (sold)
Meinl-Weston 2165 (sold)
- bloke
- Mid South Music
- Posts: 19399
- Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:55 am
- Location: western Tennessee - near Memphis
- Has thanked: 3870 times
- Been thanked: 4131 times
Re: Holding a King 2341- left hand position?
Hold it precisely at "a place the prevents the tuba from falling on the floor".
- These users thanked the author bloke for the post:
- MN_TimTuba (Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:18 pm)
-
- Posts: 674
- Joined: Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:12 am
- Location: Meadville, PA
- Has thanked: 252 times
- Been thanked: 259 times
Re: Holding a King 2341- left hand position?
This is always my intention!
King 2341 “new style”
Kanstul 902-3B
Conn Helleberg Standard 120
Kanstul 902-3B
Conn Helleberg Standard 120
- Nworbekim
- Posts: 706
- Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:18 am
- Location: south central Kentucky near Lake Cumberland
- Has thanked: 147 times
- Been thanked: 36 times
Re: Holding a King 2341- left hand position?
mostly over the top... same with the 186.
Miraphone 186 - King 2341 - JP179B - York & sons 1910 Eb - Meinl Weston 2145 - Wessex Festivo - King 2280
Play it with emotion and play it strong! Don't make a face and they won't know it's wrong!
Play it with emotion and play it strong! Don't make a face and they won't know it's wrong!