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AZ FB: King 1235 Eb

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:10 pm
by hrender

Re: AZ FB: King 1235 Eb

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:01 pm
by Tubajug
I'm curious, are the bells and bigger bows (and valves, for that matter) the same size as the 1240/1241/2340/2341 BBb horns?

Re: AZ FB: King 1235 Eb

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:56 am
by Kirley
Tubajug wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:01 pm I'm curious, are the bells and bigger bows (and valves, for that matter) the same size as the 1240/1241/2340/2341 BBb horns?
I don't think so. In the listing it states that the bell receiver is only 5".
The BBb horns are like 6.25" or so.

Pretty cool horn.

Re: AZ FB: King 1235 Eb

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 7:33 am
by KerryAbear
From TubeNet
http://forums.chisham.com/viewtopic.php?t=39867

I’m very interested in this horn. It’s in great condition at a great price, but…

@Bob Kolada
“I've probably done more ‘serious’ playing on an old, cheap Eb tuba than anyone else on this board. That said, absolutely, completely, [no]!

If you already have a decent sized Bb tuba then a large vintage Eb tuba (50/50 chance or worse of having "unusual" intonation) is the last thing you want. Look for a small King or Conn Eb. The default intonation will probably be much better and you'll have a bigger contrast to your Bb…

Summary- buy a small vintage Eb tuba, a Yamaha 321, or a big Bb euphonium instead…”

I have a B♭ tuba, and I’m not looking for a do everything E♭ horn to replace it, and I want a four valve horn. I guess I’ll hold out for a YEB-321 or YEB-381 to come up for sale.

Re: AZ FB: King 1235 Eb

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 7:31 pm
by Tubajug
Kirley wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:56 am
Tubajug wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:01 pm I'm curious, are the bells and bigger bows (and valves, for that matter) the same size as the 1240/1241/2340/2341 BBb horns?
I don't think so. In the listing it states that the bell receiver is only 5".
The BBb horns are like 6.25" or so.

Pretty cool horn.
Thanks, I missed that. Nice looking horn though!

Re: AZ FB: King 1235 Eb

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2022 6:18 pm
by JRaymo
KerryAbear wrote:From TubeNet
http://forums.chisham.com/viewtopic.php?t=39867

I’m very interested in this horn. It’s in great condition at a great price, but…

[mention]Bob Kolada[/mention]
“I've probably done more ‘serious’ playing on an old, cheap Eb tuba than anyone else on this board. That said, absolutely, completely, [no]!

If you already have a decent sized Bb tuba then a large vintage Eb tuba (50/50 chance or worse of having "unusual" intonation) is the last thing you want. Look for a small King or Conn Eb. The default intonation will probably be much better and you'll have a bigger contrast to your Bb…

Summary- buy a small vintage Eb tuba, a Yamaha 321, or a big Bb euphonium instead…”

I have a B♭ tuba, and I’m not looking for a do everything E♭ horn to replace it, and I want a four valve horn. I guess I’ll hold out for a YEB-321 or YEB-381 to come up for sale.
I agree with that. I’ve played several vintage Eb tubas and sousaphones. I’ve owned a good King Eb sousaphone but even it had one difficult note. This one in the ad looks similar to a fixed bell version Ling made much earlier. There is a chance it could be good because it is a newer version. I’d want to play it before committing to it.


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