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Portland, OR CL: very cool Josef Monke BBb
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:01 pm
by arpthark
Re: Portland, OR CL: very cool Josef Monke BBb
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:11 pm
by bort2.0
Who wants to help get this to Minnesota?
PS, I just sold a Josef Monke mouthpiece to a friend a few weeks ago. Shallow and narrow, and not for a BBb... But a neat piece regardless.
Re: Portland, OR CL: very cool Josef Monke BBb
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 8:08 am
by DonO.
Wow! That is a really tight wrap! Looks like spaghetti. From the dimensions, this maker made a 4/4 tuba within the space confines of a 3/4.
Valve buttons have a Cerveny-ish look to them, to my eye.
Nickel silver inner slides?
It does look cool, and a good price too. Might be a money pit if the rotors end up needing more work. But it certainly has a a unique look!
Re: Portland, OR CL: very cool Josef Monke BBb
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 8:16 am
by humBell
Showing my geographical ignorance... is Köln on the Rhein?
I don't imagine this will last untilthe next time i'm out that way... At least i got to see a picture, at least of the front. I like how third valve circuit goes around the bugle (i think).
Nice compact instrument. I like the size of the rotors compres to the rest of it.
Re: Portland, OR CL: very cool Josef Monke BBb
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 8:30 am
by arpthark
humBell wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 8:16 am
Showing my geographical ignorance... is Köln on the Rhein?
Ja, das ist richtig.
@DonO., this reminds me a lot of a BBb Piggy. I dunno about the bore size of this Monke, but the C Pig managed to pack a lot of tuba with a very large bore into a small, tightly-wound package. I love 'em.
arp "unabashed Piggy enthusiast" thark
Re: Portland, OR CL: very cool Josef Monke BBb
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 8:36 am
by bort2.0
Koln = Cologne
Just realized the mouthpiece I had was "Wilh. Monke Koln". I'm sure they were related, but I forget the history
Re: Portland, OR CL: very cool Josef Monke BBb
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 8:50 am
by arpthark
bort2.0 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 8:36 am
Koln = Cologne
Just realized the mouthpiece I had was "Wilh. Monke Koln". I'm sure they were related, but I forget the history
One is a Monke's uncle.
Re: Portland, OR CL: very cool Josef Monke BBb
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:15 am
by hrender
From horn-u-copia:
Josef and Wilhelm Monke, father and son. Josef established in 1922 Wilhelm established independently in 1945.
Monke tubas are here:
https://www.horn-u-copia.net/show.php?s ... 2Monke+%22
One of the horns on the Monke page indicates Miraphone as the maker. Not sure if Monke did the designs and contracted out the manufacturing or they just stenciled others horns.
Re: Portland, OR CL: very cool Josef Monke BBb
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:42 pm
by York-aholic
arpthark wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 8:50 am
bort2.0 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 8:36 am
Koln = Cologne
Just realized the mouthpiece I had was "Wilh. Monke Koln". I'm sure they were related, but I forget the history
One is a Monke's uncle.
Post of the day. Well done.
Re: Portland, OR CL: very cool Josef Monke BBb
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:41 am
by bort2.0
Re: Portland, OR CL: very cool Josef Monke BBb
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:46 am
by arpthark
Re: Portland, OR CL: very cool Josef Monke BBb
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:18 am
by hrender
CL ad still up. Possibly they didn't want to pay eBay fees. Ad still sounds legit, but the horn likely needs work.
Re: Portland, OR CL: very cool Josef Monke BBb
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:19 am
by arpthark
hrender wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:18 am
CL ad still up. Possibly they didn't want to pay eBay fees.
That is very understandable and one of the reasons I much prefer to buy/sell my gear on here or FB.
There is a Hirsbrunner near me listed for sale forever for $7,000, but due to eBay rules I can't even go try it out or make an offer before purchasing, and eBay then makes you pay sales tax (yikes!) on top of the purchase price, and takes out a chunk of the seller's dough.
Re: Portland, OR CL: very cool Josef Monke BBb
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:04 am
by bort2.0
hrender wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:18 am
CL ad still up. Possibly they didn't want to pay eBay fees.
I had been in touch with the seller since before the ebay ad and during the ebay ad...
Seemed like they were wanting to sell it locally and not do shipping (though they tried to find shipping options for me, nothing worked out). They were trying to sell it to me still even though the ebay post was active with (at last count) 23 bids. I also asked them if they are selling on eBay, then how do they plan to ship it? Then the ebay ad got pulled.
I don't think anything was fraudulent, but rather just disorganized and indecisive.
Sorry to all who bid on it. Including me.
Re: Portland, OR CL: very cool Josef Monke BBb
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:06 am
by hrender
I had this experience with a horn. Still worked out, though.
Re: Portland, OR CL: very cool Josef Monke BBb
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:06 am
by arpthark
bort2.0 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:04 am
hrender wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:18 am
CL ad still up. Possibly they didn't want to pay eBay fees.
I had been in touch with the seller since before the ebay ad and during the ebay ad...
Seemed like they were wanting to sell it locally and not do shipping (though they tried to find shipping options for me, nothing worked out). They were trying to sell it to me still even though the ebay post was active with (at last count) 23 bids. I also asked them if they are selling on eBay, then how do they plan to ship it? Then the ebay ad got pulled.
I don't think anything was fraudulent, but rather just disorganized and indecisive.
Sorry to all who bid on it. Including me.
Sorry it didn't work out, Brett. Pretty cool looking tuba.
I'm sure the right one(s) will come along to you when the cards are right.
