https://www.jlandressbrass.com

[Mary Ann]

I have never heard of this store which is in NYC.
I took a short look, and they have both a Mfone 184 5U ($6k) and a MW 30 ($4.5k)

Their terms and conditions are a bit terse, but they R in NYC.

Just curious.

[MiBrassFS]

Well known in the area and in repair circles. The owner was a marine horn player. Worked in repair at NYC Sam Ash before starting his own shop some years back. They are known for quality repairs. I don’t know him, but the couple of times I interacted with him he seemed like a good fella.

I have a friend I went to school with that moved to the area 30 years ago. He takes his stuff there and is friendly with them.

[ParLawGod]

I was actually suspecting a hornist when I was checking out the website...nearly 90k in horns for sale!

[Mary Ann]

That's funny because I was more of a hornist than a tubist, and I didn't even look at horns. But then again I do have a world class horn.

[bort2.0]

They get some nice stuff from time to time. NY prices.

[dp]

seen this double-ferruled 184 before?

[bloke]

seen this double-ferruled 184 before?

Some of the older model 184 bells were smaller at the small end and fed into bottom bows that began smaller. I thought that those were only the older B-flat versions, but - if that's a C version - then I'm learning something. I had a good condition B-flat as described (other than a trashed bell), and I had a nice bell - off of a C - to put on it. When I discovered the disparity, I had to think about it for (actually) quite a long time and just let those unmated parts sit in the attic, but I came up with a solution which was just a bit more elegant than the one in the picture - least I believe it was. Maybe the person who purchased it from me will chime in and express their opinion on my tack.
Being offered for sale in New York City combined with the fact that our rulers decided to print a couple dozen trillion bucks out of thin air - triggering hyperinflation, I have no comment on the asking price, and not even considering how they handled the bell debacle.

EDIT:

ok... @dp,
I found pics from THIS websites which clearly show the workaround that I used:






ALL inside that custom W-I-D-E- ferrule (bottom-to-top) are:
- the large end of the old-old-style SMALLER bottom bow
- the SMALL bottom end of the trashed original bell (carefully trimmed off the trashed bell)
- the LARGER (later-style) 184 bell

All three of them butt up flush against each other inside that wide custom ferrule.

I would guess that the reason that the two ferrules (and the brass between) take up more width than mine could be that the three (brass) pieces possibly don't butt up flush.

btw...Most of the lacquer on the valve section was in pretty good shape, so I just left it (with touch-ups).
The large bows' lacquer is obviously new, but I spent some time mixing up all sorts of translucent tints (I'm not experienced, but trial-and-error-ed) to come pretty close to matching the age-darkened color of the valve section's original lacquer...some bronze, some brown, some yellow-orange, some green, etc...